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welcome back everybody it's going to be

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another military day today recently

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we've chatted with a lot of people that

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uh have worked in the military seen some

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things and as of late we've tried to

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bring on the people that are associated

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with the most famous sightings uh I.E

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the gimbal video and Ryan Graves Tic Tac

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video now Kevin day uh and more than

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just to rehash the story and we do have

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a lot of new listeners that may not be

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aware but more to discuss the impact

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that that has on your life and I mean

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Jason you're big on the abduction

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phenomenon you've had a lot of people

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talk to you about the impact of what

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they've seen yeah and experiences alike

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it doesn't necessarily have to do with

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you know just the abduction phenomenon

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but a lot of times even being close

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proximity or experiencing something that

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uh you know you can't explain will

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change your life it'll change the

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perspective on things yeah and even

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sometimes people report they get

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information where they had this

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experience and now they have a knowledge

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of a subject that they didn't know

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anything about and it just feels right

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and they haven't studied it and Kevin's

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done some of that recently too so we're

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going to talk a little bit about the o4

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Nimitz Tic Tac encounter that made the

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national headlines but also kind of fill

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in some of those blanks that a lot of

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the reports left out I'm looking forward

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to it it's going to be another great day

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you ready to go Jay I'm ready to go

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let's do this we'll be right back with

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Mr Kevin date right here on UAP studies

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[Music]

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who are you ready

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welcome back to another episode of UAP

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studies podcast my name is Louis Borges

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joining me as always my good buddy Jason

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Gilman Captain Jason Gilman on board

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how's it going gorgeous gorgeous it's

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going well sir it's a military day today

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and a couple weeks ago we had Ryan

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Graves on as we all know the gimbal

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video made headlines and he talked about

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what his experiences were like and of

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course I think the most famous one of

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all is the Tic Tac video and there's

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been a lot of reports that have come out

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about it a lot of people are fairly new

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to this topic ever since 2017 but these

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reports skim and they leave a lot out

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and it's written from somebody else it's

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third hand from second hand kind of

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speed so to speak and there's nothing

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more important than getting it direct

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from the people who were there who know

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what they saw and uh you know had life

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impacts as a result and I can't think of

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anybody more in that category than our

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guest today Mr Kevin day so first

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welcome to the show again Kevin it's

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I have to tell you guys it is my honor

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and pleasure to be here right now wow

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thank you because I truly do I truly do

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have something to say yeah and it's

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pretty neat actually what I have to say

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is pretty neat stuff well let's get

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right into it we don't mess around let's

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get started what happened in 2004

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let's set the context for it

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um my job in the Navy I was a operation

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specialist Senior Chief Petty Officer so

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it goes from uh in the a list of rings

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ships and we fight the ship essentially

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we track and report and fight the ship

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believe it or not when this event went

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a ship in uniform oh really and I had

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the constellation both on on staff duty

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weird tracks and it really caught my

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everything I was like what in the fill

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our message traffic and everything I was

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first aircraft airborne and go look

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you said you're right so she intercepted

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the idea I was like yes

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the holy earth science like yeah because

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we all wanted to do that it's like

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because none of us it stumped us at that

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so anyway uh commander fraver on Fast

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he was kind of that kind of guy right

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the commander of the Air Wing

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of his Squadron I mean so he launches we

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the merge plot position as soon as he's

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real right so he leaves his wingman up

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fill in the blank with a cuss word right

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should have heard him on the radio and

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his words not mine again

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right in front of him disappears

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this is all unclassified when you can

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Wikipedia right basic stuff and all

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militaries around the world do it

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case they're called combat air patrol

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stations you can go back to Roman times

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directly in front of fast Eagle flight

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and longitude and exactly at their

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stunned you should

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you should have seen the reaction

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here it on board the ship we're all

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everyone's looking at me

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one of the most senior people besides

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the captain in that whole room and I I

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didn't have a clue yeah but I knew they

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were real because we had run when we

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first started to see him days before we

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could think of to ensure they were real

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back to Port that was my last underway

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in uniform like I said I was going to go

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work for the Admiral which I did combat

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their pack over in Coronado for

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a couple years out and then I retired

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sirs and Maps we we have a safety of

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flight problem off here off the coast

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and it'd be like what do you mean Center

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cheap

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people I mean it was so bizarre right I

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something that was I could just tell by

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the looks down on the nose and it and so

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I retired and um when it became a

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civilian became much more obvious I mean

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people would laugh and across the table

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people would snicker

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I I'm still getting emails from my old

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associate saying Kevin are you sure you

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want to testify in front of Congress are

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you still mentally there no stuff like

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that yeah I have pools yeah I it really

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happened and it it was really really

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frustrating

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yeah how did that affect your life

285
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moving forward I know you've had you've

286
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had issues as a result right that's

287
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that's a very good question no one would

288
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believe me so what I ended up doing

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is I ended up um quitting my job out of

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a silent protest it didn't make a big

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issue

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and I decided to go back to school and

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get my master's degree in education

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which I did education Tech

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and during this time I became obsessed

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with this idea that I could find the

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mother alone to a family mining claim

298
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they've been in our family for more than

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100 years back in the wilderness out

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here

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and long story short I did

302
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boy howdy you wait to see what's about

303
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to happen with what I had discovered

304
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it's gonna it's gonna blow you away guys

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um because basically what it is

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and I and I can show this it's um

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it's basically the geology is related to

308
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a larger piece of geology called the

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Josephine opioid

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and it extends from Northern California

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to North Washington and what it is is a

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section of geology

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that's from the mid-pacific spreading

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arcs and there is hydrothermal vents of

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course right you know that and

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the spreading arcs are the original

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mineral sorters for the planet

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so and normally that ground is so heavy

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it gets subducted under continental

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plates but when it does get stuck on top

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of dry land it's called an ophiolite

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and that's what we have so anyway I did

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all the research I went back to

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Wilderness and you have to imagine this

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I was a top trainer Navy and you asked

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how this affected my life I swear to God

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gentlemen all of my former colleagues my

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friends and even my own family thought I

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was losing my mind

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he's doing what out in the wilderness I

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couldn't figure it out

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yeah

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and

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so my message is if if this doesn't

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happen all the time because researchers

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don't know why it only affects some

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people but

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what they believe is happening with UAP

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is with some people when they encounter

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it it Tunes up the synapses in the brain

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somehow yeah we've and it simply

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uncovers

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um abilities and stuff that was already

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inside you anyway

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yeah you have suddenly out of the blue

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you have new abilities

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literally yeah new talents literally

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we've interviewed people

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I didn't know nothing about geology or

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mining or nothing but you should wait

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till you see my report yeah it's not

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that's not uncommon even people that

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have had near-death experiences or like

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heavy trauma to the brain car accidents

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things like that I mean it's not common

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but it's not you know totally uncommon

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where people learn languages overnight

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or their ability to become like a piano

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Savant just something totally unrelated

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from a traumatic incident right but here

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but but here's here's my warning to

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everyone right

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although the changes are good like they

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were in my case but I

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and you got to understand when I was

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going through this I hadn't connected

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the dots back to this encounter at all

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in any way shape or form

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zero

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[Music]

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the problem is when you're going through

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it everyone around you thinks you're

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losing your mind

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yeah that's the problem and and this is

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my concern

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just what if gentlemen

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and everyone listen ladies too just what

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if what happened to me back in that

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Wilderness suddenly happened to every

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person on this planet

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due to some kind of mass encounter and

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nobody on the planet knewire how

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that might not end well yeah yeah so how

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did you feel just to go back to the

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incident in 2004 you know you were

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laughed at ostracized for years and then

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in 2017 Pentagon releases this or it

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gets leaked through Lou Alexander or

389
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whatever but how did you feel to see

390
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that same video

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I I can tell you what happened because

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it's all related sure

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um anyway winter chased me out of the

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mountains I came back and I ended up

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buying a home here

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On My Feet Again in town I started to

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volunteer at the golf course

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just reopened the kitchen you know I had

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forgotten all about this

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my mining research had put on the Shelf

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because it's a Wilderness right there

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wasn't any way I'm touching that ground

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all right because

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I I would I would probably defend it

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with my life after what I know about it

406
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right anyway I'm coming out of the

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kitchen carrying a plate of food

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watching the golf tournament and all of

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a sudden CNN's I was like who

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and all sudden

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I'm going to get emotional

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because

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what was playing

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was the same

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m-tech video I had in my email the

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morning after this happened when object

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went

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are y'all down Dave now my

419
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brother-in-law I gotta go home I'll tell

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you why later and I raced home as safely

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as I could in the rest is history

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[Music]

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so what brings up the trauma was that

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the fact that this actually happened and

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the complexity of oh my God maybe we're

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being visited or was it the way people

427
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treated you after the experience

428
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yeah all of it and what this means for

429
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us yeah all of it you know what just

430
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move forward because this is a good

431
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thing

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if it's understood yeah and that's my

433
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personal point of view

434
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I I really truly believe after would

435
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have gone through the reason why

436
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whatever this is hasn't

437
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has it come here like

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like you know it hasn't visited us and

439
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stuff and and you know more obviously I

440
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guess I should say yeah because they

441
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know it changes people

442
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and just imagine is everyone on the

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planet started to change like I did and

444
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no one knew wirehouse

445
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yeah

446
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the the solidification of the events and

447
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it's because they love us yeah it's

448
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benevolent they love us that's why they

449
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haven't come because and it's entirely

450
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possible that they did come before and

451
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it didn't end well

452
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I mean look at the ancient records and

453
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stuff yeah it's all written about right

454
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am I wrong about that yeah no 100 100

455
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yeah and that's interesting that out of

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such a traumatic experience you still

457
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take away a positive feeling that

458
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negativity is

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is separate oh my God you can ask my

460
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wife Kim she's sitting right here

461
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every day I thank God

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multiple times a day

463
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for my

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thank you for choosing me if that's what

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happened

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I don't know

467
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but I didn't choose this not at all like

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God willing I'm gonna get through

469
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yeah good for you man you're

470
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inspirational and more people in the

471
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military that are thinking of coming

472
00:18:16,789 --> 00:18:15,120
forward it's not easy it's not going to

473
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be easy but they should look to you for

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inspiration because it is so important

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it's bigger than all of us yeah combined

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and individually

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I know it sounds corny

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because it's so overused throughout

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history but I love Humanity

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and that's my reason

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the implications of this

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yeah

483
00:18:43,850 --> 00:18:41,460
the the implications of this phenomenon

484
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um it stretches past the the nuts and

485
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bolts of how these crafts fly There's an

486
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actual connection a lot of people have

487
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this connection whether it's from a

488
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sighting or an experience like what

489
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you've gone through

490
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um we talked to a lot of people that

491
00:19:02,090 --> 00:18:59,340
have been abductees there's so many

492
00:19:04,370 --> 00:19:02,100
complexities even Consciousness um the

493
00:19:06,830 --> 00:19:04,380
fact that some people can be manipulated

494
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and you know it brings up a bunch of

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different

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questions that lead to more questions

497
00:19:18,110 --> 00:19:15,120
and the acknowledgment that we've had

498
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recently uh from the government is is a

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baby step but it opens eventually it's

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going to open up all those doors as well

501
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so that's something to watch out for

502
00:19:30,590 --> 00:19:28,200
right yeah

503
00:19:34,850 --> 00:19:30,600
you have even how do you even bring that

504
00:19:39,110 --> 00:19:37,310
it's one one last story I got to relate

505
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to you back to the mind because we only

506
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for your listeners that may have heard

507
00:19:53,090 --> 00:19:51,299
of Elon Musk and MZ he's a guy out of

508
00:19:54,230 --> 00:19:53,100
Japan they're doing a deer moon what

509
00:19:57,110 --> 00:19:54,240
they're calling the deer moon mission

510
00:19:58,669 --> 00:19:57,120
they're taking a SpaceX flight in 2023

511
00:19:59,510 --> 00:19:58,679
around the moon coming home hopefully

512
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right

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00:20:04,610 --> 00:20:01,440
and they opened it up for eight

514
00:20:07,370 --> 00:20:04,620
civilians to go and said hey apply but

515
00:20:09,529 --> 00:20:07,380
if whatever you know if you apply it has

516
00:20:11,450 --> 00:20:09,539
to relate to something you're doing here

517
00:20:14,990 --> 00:20:11,460
on Earth so I said what the heck I'm

518
00:20:17,510 --> 00:20:15,000
going to apply so I send them everything

519
00:20:19,490 --> 00:20:17,520
everything about me and I

520
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I presume they'd probably heard about me

521
00:20:23,630 --> 00:20:20,460
and stuff

522
00:20:25,430 --> 00:20:23,640
and I sent in my mining research

523
00:20:26,870 --> 00:20:25,440
wait till you see it I mean it's pretty

524
00:20:30,130 --> 00:20:26,880
thorough you're gonna like it go through

525
00:20:33,770 --> 00:20:30,140
the history the geologic interpretation

526
00:20:35,150 --> 00:20:33,780
and of course it uh there was an

527
00:20:35,990 --> 00:20:35,160
expedition we did and that covers all

528
00:20:38,029 --> 00:20:36,000
that

529
00:20:41,150 --> 00:20:38,039
but anyway I was outside the house after

530
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a plane four four days later

531
00:20:45,830 --> 00:20:42,780
and you gotta remember this is basically

532
00:20:47,330 --> 00:20:45,840
a no-fly zone here we don't get jet

533
00:20:49,669 --> 00:20:47,340
aircraft here especially over the

534
00:20:52,490 --> 00:20:49,679
Wilderness off to the Wester and I look

535
00:20:55,610 --> 00:20:52,500
off I hear a jet on what in the hell and

536
00:20:57,289 --> 00:20:55,620
there's this low big big big white jet

537
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flying

538
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real slow right over the mountains over

539
00:21:03,770 --> 00:21:02,039
the Wilderness north and south north and

540
00:21:05,930 --> 00:21:03,780
south north and south north and south

541
00:21:07,549 --> 00:21:05,940
north and south side come running in the

542
00:21:08,330 --> 00:21:07,559
house look on the internet and it turns

543
00:21:10,130 --> 00:21:08,340
out

544
00:21:15,710 --> 00:21:10,140
the flight

545
00:21:23,270 --> 00:21:20,930
in in the track of it directly overlays

546
00:21:24,710 --> 00:21:23,280
where my research was done

547
00:21:26,930 --> 00:21:24,720
so you tell me

548
00:21:28,310 --> 00:21:26,940
they are did they not check out my

549
00:21:31,909 --> 00:21:28,320
research

550
00:21:34,070 --> 00:21:31,919
yeah Fair Point yeah and to the point of

551
00:21:36,350 --> 00:21:34,080
kind of researching and trying to

552
00:21:38,690 --> 00:21:36,360
recreate things uh about maybe three or

553
00:21:39,950 --> 00:21:38,700
three months ago in all in all fair in

554
00:21:41,870 --> 00:21:39,960
history is there another possibility

555
00:21:43,669 --> 00:21:41,880
because there have been some recent

556
00:21:52,750 --> 00:21:43,679
earthquakes off the coast here and it's

557
00:21:57,610 --> 00:21:55,549
I'm a researcher so I gotta you know I

558
00:22:00,289 --> 00:21:57,620
can't describe

559
00:22:02,330 --> 00:22:00,299
yeah the thing I found interesting about

560
00:22:04,610 --> 00:22:02,340
the whole Tic Tac phenomenon is it's not

561
00:22:06,830 --> 00:22:04,620
an isolated event uh Caroline Corey made

562
00:22:08,090 --> 00:22:06,840
a movie last year a tear in the sky I

563
00:22:10,430 --> 00:22:08,100
think you were featured in the movie as

564
00:22:12,169 --> 00:22:10,440
well with the uapx guys I found it

565
00:22:14,110 --> 00:22:12,179
amazing that you guys could go to that

566
00:22:16,130 --> 00:22:14,120
same area off Catalina Island

567
00:22:17,870 --> 00:22:16,140
triangulate three different positions

568
00:22:20,029 --> 00:22:17,880
and within a day or two you start

569
00:22:22,970 --> 00:22:20,039
catching basically the same phenomena so

570
00:22:24,470 --> 00:22:22,980
this is not that rare of a thing that if

571
00:22:26,990 --> 00:22:24,480
you got the right instruments you can go

572
00:22:29,149 --> 00:22:27,000
and see it just you just segued into

573
00:22:32,930 --> 00:22:29,159
something else I'd like to talk about

574
00:22:34,909 --> 00:22:32,940
when this event happened in 2004

575
00:22:36,230 --> 00:22:34,919
right after Commander flavor of fast

576
00:22:38,090 --> 00:22:36,240
equal flight

577
00:22:39,649 --> 00:22:38,100
um had intercepted Yahoo he went chasing

578
00:22:41,690 --> 00:22:39,659
it down to recognized them they were

579
00:22:43,669 --> 00:22:41,700
down on the surface of the water even

580
00:22:46,010 --> 00:22:43,679
reported something underneath the water

581
00:22:48,230 --> 00:22:46,020
right as you probably know disappeared

582
00:22:50,210 --> 00:22:48,240
went to his cap station

583
00:22:52,789 --> 00:22:50,220
I have a question for you

584
00:22:54,830 --> 00:22:52,799
how I mean right on it too exactly on

585
00:22:57,590 --> 00:22:54,840
the latitude longitude and the science

586
00:23:00,110 --> 00:22:57,600
altitude not not just a cap station but

587
00:23:02,510 --> 00:23:00,120
fast equals a signed cap station

588
00:23:05,690 --> 00:23:02,520
their flights

589
00:23:08,750 --> 00:23:05,700
and I have a question how did it know

590
00:23:11,810 --> 00:23:08,760
where their assigned cap station was

591
00:23:13,970 --> 00:23:11,820
hmm yeah so there's only two possible

592
00:23:16,610 --> 00:23:13,980
reasons they they either cracked into

593
00:23:19,970 --> 00:23:16,620
our secret message traffic somehow and

594
00:23:21,950 --> 00:23:19,980
knew that way or they knew Our intention

595
00:23:23,090 --> 00:23:21,960
but at the time I didn't know so life

596
00:23:25,549 --> 00:23:23,100
went on

597
00:23:27,649 --> 00:23:25,559
and we did the SoCal Expedition like you

598
00:23:29,870 --> 00:23:27,659
just mentioned we all show up on this

599
00:23:31,730 --> 00:23:29,880
roof with all this really high-tech gear

600
00:23:34,789 --> 00:23:31,740
some pretty Neato stuff too by the way

601
00:23:37,549 --> 00:23:34,799
yeah um scientists pretty notable people

602
00:23:39,409 --> 00:23:37,559
Caroline Corey's

603
00:23:41,690 --> 00:23:39,419
um paid for it all out of her own pocket

604
00:23:44,450 --> 00:23:41,700
yeah with no promise anything would

605
00:23:46,250 --> 00:23:44,460
happen I mean God bless her right but

606
00:23:48,470 --> 00:23:46,260
what did happen

607
00:23:50,029 --> 00:23:48,480
these things showed up for us and not

608
00:23:51,890 --> 00:23:50,039
only did they show up but they showed up

609
00:23:54,529 --> 00:23:51,900
with bells on them too apparently

610
00:23:56,390 --> 00:23:54,539
through a darn worm a wormhole not not

611
00:23:57,710 --> 00:23:56,400
that's not me that's what I was saying

612
00:23:59,810 --> 00:23:57,720
that scientists

613
00:24:03,049 --> 00:23:59,820
and again I have a question

614
00:24:07,250 --> 00:24:03,059
how did those things know our intention

615
00:24:08,990 --> 00:24:07,260
yeah so I I I have 8 30.

616
00:24:11,990 --> 00:24:09,000
I think

617
00:24:13,850 --> 00:24:12,000
because my idea my idea back my uh job

618
00:24:15,350 --> 00:24:13,860
in the Navy was to identify things and

619
00:24:17,450 --> 00:24:15,360
that's what I want to do with these I

620
00:24:19,190 --> 00:24:17,460
still want to be the guy that or be a

621
00:24:20,330 --> 00:24:19,200
part of the team that identifies these

622
00:24:22,970 --> 00:24:20,340
things

623
00:24:25,130 --> 00:24:22,980
and I think I'm on to something

624
00:24:27,049 --> 00:24:25,140
and I have several Quantum physicists

625
00:24:29,090 --> 00:24:27,059
that agree with me so far just so you

626
00:24:33,110 --> 00:24:29,100
know and I won't say their names

627
00:24:34,250 --> 00:24:33,120
but I think intention itself

628
00:24:37,669 --> 00:24:34,260
is

629
00:24:39,770 --> 00:24:37,679
because I have a question for everyone

630
00:24:42,590 --> 00:24:39,780
listening

631
00:24:45,110 --> 00:24:42,600
was the Big Bang intentional or

632
00:24:46,549 --> 00:24:45,120
unintentional

633
00:24:50,390 --> 00:24:46,559
I don't know

634
00:24:52,490 --> 00:24:50,400
it's 50 50.

635
00:24:55,190 --> 00:24:52,500
but you tell me if I'm wrong about that

636
00:24:57,110 --> 00:24:55,200
right but think about this now

637
00:24:59,630 --> 00:24:57,120
because we know they're probably

638
00:25:02,810 --> 00:24:59,640
apparently exists a 50 chance the

639
00:25:07,130 --> 00:25:05,570
just what my an intended Universe look

640
00:25:09,130 --> 00:25:07,140
like

641
00:25:12,470 --> 00:25:09,140
and think about this

642
00:25:13,669 --> 00:25:12,480
and in that case if intention caused the

643
00:25:14,590 --> 00:25:13,679
Big Bang

644
00:25:17,750 --> 00:25:14,600
thank you

645
00:25:19,850 --> 00:25:17,760
what did convention did intention itself

646
00:25:21,950 --> 00:25:19,860
commit some type of Harry Caray and some

647
00:25:24,470 --> 00:25:21,960
benevolent Act of Creation

648
00:25:26,830 --> 00:25:24,480
or did it survive the Big Bang to become

649
00:25:32,590 --> 00:25:26,840
a fundamental force in our universe

650
00:25:35,990 --> 00:25:32,600
right alongside all the other ones yeah

651
00:25:37,970 --> 00:25:36,000
I mean we got gravity strong nuclear

652
00:25:41,269 --> 00:25:37,980
force weak nuclear force

653
00:25:44,990 --> 00:25:41,279
electromagnetism right

654
00:25:46,850 --> 00:25:45,000
I think intention is a another one

655
00:25:51,409 --> 00:25:46,860
and I think it's

656
00:25:53,510 --> 00:25:51,419
um well Newtonian and non-Newtonian

657
00:25:55,430 --> 00:25:53,520
and I think that's what these objects

658
00:25:56,330 --> 00:25:55,440
are based on

659
00:25:58,850 --> 00:25:56,340
um

660
00:26:01,490 --> 00:25:58,860
the physics it's the physics

661
00:26:03,710 --> 00:26:01,500
the real things it's not magic it's not

662
00:26:07,130 --> 00:26:03,720
woo these objects are based on a type of

663
00:26:09,830 --> 00:26:07,140
physics we didn't know about before

664
00:26:12,470 --> 00:26:09,840
yeah and all your years Kevin all your

665
00:26:15,710 --> 00:26:12,480
years in the service and being the rank

666
00:26:18,529 --> 00:26:15,720
that you are at you know what

667
00:26:19,610 --> 00:26:18,539
capabilities we have in the military and

668
00:26:21,289 --> 00:26:19,620
what we have you know for

669
00:26:22,669 --> 00:26:21,299
state-of-the-art technology when it

670
00:26:25,610 --> 00:26:22,679
comes down to flight

671
00:26:27,289 --> 00:26:25,620
so you know you seeing something like

672
00:26:28,789 --> 00:26:27,299
this that you can't identify especially

673
00:26:30,470 --> 00:26:28,799
at your rank and like you mentioned

674
00:26:31,909 --> 00:26:30,480
people looking up to you saying what the

675
00:26:36,649 --> 00:26:31,919
hell is it and you're like I don't know

676
00:26:38,029 --> 00:26:36,659
right have you have you found um it was

677
00:26:41,690 --> 00:26:38,039
a fun moment by the way everyone's

678
00:26:43,190 --> 00:26:41,700
looking at me yeah yeah I don't know you

679
00:26:45,470 --> 00:26:43,200
feel like you're on the look your face

680
00:26:47,690 --> 00:26:45,480
goes red yeah people told me later I had

681
00:26:49,909 --> 00:26:47,700
a small I had a small smile on my face

682
00:26:52,850 --> 00:26:49,919
like I was taking it pretty well yeah

683
00:26:55,250 --> 00:26:52,860
that's my nature I'm a fun-loving guy I

684
00:26:56,810 --> 00:26:55,260
always have been go ahead no have you I

685
00:26:59,630 --> 00:26:56,820
was gonna say have you had other people

686
00:27:00,409 --> 00:26:59,640
now reach out to you because like you've

687
00:27:03,649 --> 00:27:00,419
been

688
00:27:05,750 --> 00:27:03,659
you know it takes a pair of balls to be

689
00:27:08,149 --> 00:27:05,760
able to do what you do to be able to to

690
00:27:10,130 --> 00:27:08,159
speak up and say hey you know what I

691
00:27:12,890 --> 00:27:10,140
served and while I served something

692
00:27:14,090 --> 00:27:12,900
wasn't right and it's affected me right

693
00:27:15,710 --> 00:27:14,100
it takes

694
00:27:17,450 --> 00:27:15,720
a really strong person to do that

695
00:27:19,250 --> 00:27:17,460
there's there's several now coming out

696
00:27:21,590 --> 00:27:19,260
of the Woodworks which is good we need

697
00:27:23,330 --> 00:27:21,600
more people like that and Louie and I

698
00:27:25,310 --> 00:27:23,340
always say you know true disclosure

699
00:27:27,529 --> 00:27:25,320
comes from the men and women in service

700
00:27:30,110 --> 00:27:27,539
that have experienced things and we've

701
00:27:31,789 --> 00:27:30,120
interviewed a lot of them uh that isn't

702
00:27:33,289 --> 00:27:31,799
right you know that there's something

703
00:27:35,090 --> 00:27:33,299
off there's something wrong there's

704
00:27:37,850 --> 00:27:35,100
something that is going on that that

705
00:27:39,890 --> 00:27:37,860
general population is experiencing

706
00:27:42,529 --> 00:27:39,900
and now the military is confirming it

707
00:27:44,269 --> 00:27:42,539
the dod is confirming it as well and

708
00:27:46,549 --> 00:27:44,279
this all happened within a short period

709
00:27:48,950 --> 00:27:46,559
of time but is it like do you feel sort

710
00:27:50,570 --> 00:27:48,960
of I wouldn't say Vindicated but it must

711
00:27:52,610 --> 00:27:50,580
feel good to be at this point where

712
00:27:54,169 --> 00:27:52,620
people are like well maybe Kevin

713
00:27:57,049 --> 00:27:54,179
was on to something before everybody

714
00:28:01,190 --> 00:27:58,610
boy howdy

715
00:28:02,269 --> 00:28:01,200
boy do I feel Vindicated yeah as a

716
00:28:04,430 --> 00:28:02,279
matter of fact I got to tell you guys

717
00:28:07,130 --> 00:28:04,440
something there's a pretty good pretty

718
00:28:08,690 --> 00:28:07,140
good chance that uh at some point in the

719
00:28:10,070 --> 00:28:08,700
future I'll be going back to Congress to

720
00:28:12,289 --> 00:28:10,080
tell my story and stuff and answer

721
00:28:14,930 --> 00:28:12,299
questions and all that but I have to say

722
00:28:16,730 --> 00:28:14,940
right now I'm in no way shape or form

723
00:28:19,490 --> 00:28:16,740
looking for compensation in any way

724
00:28:20,990 --> 00:28:19,500
right that's not what I I want the

725
00:28:23,750 --> 00:28:21,000
opposite in fact

726
00:28:25,789 --> 00:28:23,760
in fact if I get to Congress um if they

727
00:28:26,930 --> 00:28:25,799
give me the opportunity of course I'm

728
00:28:28,909 --> 00:28:26,940
going to answer all the questions tell

729
00:28:29,870 --> 00:28:28,919
the story like I just did right all that

730
00:28:31,070 --> 00:28:29,880
stuff

731
00:28:32,990 --> 00:28:31,080
but I'm going to give them two

732
00:28:35,510 --> 00:28:33,000
recommendations

733
00:28:36,890 --> 00:28:35,520
number one and you gotta remember I went

734
00:28:39,169 --> 00:28:36,900
through this experience and I have a

735
00:28:40,669 --> 00:28:39,179
master's degree in education

736
00:28:42,169 --> 00:28:40,679
I'm going to say

737
00:28:44,750 --> 00:28:42,179
um

738
00:28:46,310 --> 00:28:44,760
the need for public education about UAP

739
00:28:48,769 --> 00:28:46,320
is obvious

740
00:28:51,529 --> 00:28:48,779
let's start teaching about these things

741
00:28:52,669 --> 00:28:51,539
from grade school to high school and

742
00:28:55,610 --> 00:28:52,679
Beyond

743
00:28:57,710 --> 00:28:55,620
at all appropriate grade levels that way

744
00:28:59,870 --> 00:28:57,720
guess what happens when Mommy picks up

745
00:29:01,310 --> 00:28:59,880
Sally and Joey from school and they're

746
00:29:03,230 --> 00:29:01,320
driving home and all of a sudden Sally

747
00:29:05,090 --> 00:29:03,240
says hey look Joey it's one of those

748
00:29:07,909 --> 00:29:05,100
things we learned about in school

749
00:29:10,370 --> 00:29:07,919
is it any big deal now

750
00:29:12,110 --> 00:29:10,380
you tell me yeah what about when they

751
00:29:15,230 --> 00:29:12,120
get home and tell Dad and others is it

752
00:29:16,430 --> 00:29:15,240
any big deal now yeah same question I

753
00:29:19,010 --> 00:29:16,440
don't think so

754
00:29:20,630 --> 00:29:19,020
and and you were kind of touching on it

755
00:29:22,130 --> 00:29:20,640
and my other recommendation is going to

756
00:29:25,310 --> 00:29:22,140
be this

757
00:29:26,450 --> 00:29:25,320
I am in no way shape or form seeking

758
00:29:28,310 --> 00:29:26,460
compensation

759
00:29:31,370 --> 00:29:28,320
and you you touched on it because I've

760
00:29:32,630 --> 00:29:31,380
been repaid in full already in life and

761
00:29:35,210 --> 00:29:32,640
rich in life

762
00:29:37,970 --> 00:29:35,220
in fact I want to say let's bury the ax

763
00:29:42,289 --> 00:29:37,980
on this thing for all of this

764
00:29:46,610 --> 00:29:45,110
forgive

765
00:29:48,590 --> 00:29:46,620
move on

766
00:29:51,409 --> 00:29:48,600
and move up

767
00:29:54,470 --> 00:29:51,419
I didn't say forget this is an awesome

768
00:29:56,510 --> 00:29:54,480
story gentlemen I said forgive

769
00:29:58,730 --> 00:29:56,520
because this is nobody's fault and

770
00:30:00,350 --> 00:29:58,740
people that like to point blame at my

771
00:30:02,510 --> 00:30:00,360
government and people that work in my

772
00:30:03,830 --> 00:30:02,520
government and somehow try to say

773
00:30:06,049 --> 00:30:03,840
they're bad

774
00:30:09,470 --> 00:30:06,059
pisses me off

775
00:30:10,850 --> 00:30:09,480
I don't believe anything such malarkey

776
00:30:12,710 --> 00:30:10,860
no way

777
00:30:14,389 --> 00:30:12,720
people that work in government are good

778
00:30:16,730 --> 00:30:14,399
people I mean there of course there's

779
00:30:18,049 --> 00:30:16,740
exceptions but they go to work like you

780
00:30:21,649 --> 00:30:18,059
do

781
00:30:23,930 --> 00:30:21,659
the best they can

782
00:30:26,210 --> 00:30:23,940
be inherited they inherited this problem

783
00:30:27,950 --> 00:30:26,220
the people in the 40s that decided to

784
00:30:29,389 --> 00:30:27,960
you know sequester all this they're not

785
00:30:30,529 --> 00:30:29,399
the ones now that are stuck dealing with

786
00:30:32,149 --> 00:30:30,539
the mess

787
00:30:33,710 --> 00:30:32,159
and there's one there's one other thing

788
00:30:36,590 --> 00:30:33,720
I matched all the time

789
00:30:38,930 --> 00:30:36,600
is all the time Kevin do you think this

790
00:30:41,510 --> 00:30:38,940
is us you think it's human

791
00:30:43,070 --> 00:30:41,520
and I don't know if anyone else has ever

792
00:30:44,090 --> 00:30:43,080
thought about this they probably have I

793
00:30:47,149 --> 00:30:44,100
don't know if

794
00:30:48,710 --> 00:30:47,159
um but it sure occurred to me I've never

795
00:30:50,930 --> 00:30:48,720
been a religious person

796
00:30:52,610 --> 00:30:50,940
um remember that okay but you know I

797
00:30:54,470 --> 00:30:52,620
thank God every day okay I'm one of

798
00:30:56,930 --> 00:30:54,480
those kind of guys but I have a question

799
00:30:58,850 --> 00:30:56,940
about an ancient story that found its

800
00:31:00,769 --> 00:30:58,860
way in this in the Bible at least it may

801
00:31:03,470 --> 00:31:00,779
be other places but remember the story

802
00:31:06,649 --> 00:31:03,480
of the ezekiel's will yeah that object

803
00:31:11,990 --> 00:31:06,659
in the sky what was that

804
00:31:15,169 --> 00:31:12,000
yeah okay and isn't it possible that

805
00:31:17,149 --> 00:31:15,179
because today we know that UAP is real

806
00:31:19,730 --> 00:31:17,159
who should say that wasn't

807
00:31:21,769 --> 00:31:19,740
I mean come on it was written right but

808
00:31:23,630 --> 00:31:21,779
who's to say and also because that's

809
00:31:25,190 --> 00:31:23,640
possible who's to say it didn't take

810
00:31:26,690 --> 00:31:25,200
some humans on board and maybe some

811
00:31:28,549 --> 00:31:26,700
animals too

812
00:31:32,269 --> 00:31:28,559
and maybe they were like

813
00:31:34,610 --> 00:31:32,279
um space Noah if you will

814
00:31:37,190 --> 00:31:34,620
and think about this

815
00:31:39,409 --> 00:31:37,200
for whatever reason

816
00:31:43,090 --> 00:31:39,419
that branch of humanity is just now

817
00:31:46,010 --> 00:31:43,100
coming back to say hi to planet Earth

818
00:31:47,330 --> 00:31:46,020
yeah we've explored quite a bit of of

819
00:31:49,850 --> 00:31:47,340
these

820
00:31:51,830 --> 00:31:49,860
um issues and uh not issues but I would

821
00:31:53,930 --> 00:31:51,840
say these topics and we're still on the

822
00:31:56,090 --> 00:31:53,940
fence we think it's could be a variety

823
00:31:57,649 --> 00:31:56,100
of things but what you're mentioning has

824
00:31:59,810 --> 00:31:57,659
been mentioned you know several times

825
00:32:03,350 --> 00:31:59,820
that it's a possibility that this is

826
00:32:05,090 --> 00:32:03,360
what is going on it's a species that

827
00:32:08,029 --> 00:32:05,100
used to live here that's coming back to

828
00:32:09,230 --> 00:32:08,039
visit or or maybe just oversee things

829
00:32:11,450 --> 00:32:09,240
because they're a little bit more

830
00:32:13,430 --> 00:32:11,460
advanced than we are but there's

831
00:32:15,110 --> 00:32:13,440
obviously a reason why they're here and

832
00:32:17,570 --> 00:32:15,120
so far they haven't shown any aggression

833
00:32:21,110 --> 00:32:17,580
like none in fact every time that a

834
00:32:22,909 --> 00:32:21,120
military uh something goes off with like

835
00:32:25,730 --> 00:32:22,919
a Jets or dispatch it seems like they've

836
00:32:27,169 --> 00:32:25,740
shown quite a bit of restraint like they

837
00:32:29,389 --> 00:32:27,179
haven't they haven't attacked anybody

838
00:32:31,190 --> 00:32:29,399
there's no collisions I can tell you I

839
00:32:32,149 --> 00:32:31,200
would I was trying to

840
00:32:37,549 --> 00:32:32,159
um

841
00:32:40,909 --> 00:32:37,559
recommendations to the senior staff on

842
00:32:42,830 --> 00:32:40,919
ships right right it was my job you know

843
00:32:44,630 --> 00:32:42,840
I sat in a chair where I would be the

844
00:32:47,269 --> 00:32:44,640
guy to initiate missile launches and

845
00:32:49,010 --> 00:32:47,279
then the captain would turn key

846
00:32:50,750 --> 00:32:49,020
never once during this whole encounter

847
00:32:53,870 --> 00:32:50,760
did I ever once filled these things were

848
00:32:56,990 --> 00:32:53,880
hostile quite the opposite actually

849
00:32:58,909 --> 00:32:57,000
I felt they were peaceful beyond belief

850
00:33:02,029 --> 00:32:58,919
the whole time and they wanted to say hi

851
00:33:03,350 --> 00:33:02,039
to the whales that's what I was thinking

852
00:33:05,269 --> 00:33:03,360
yeah

853
00:33:07,310 --> 00:33:05,279
don't be crazy but that's that's how I

854
00:33:09,710 --> 00:33:07,320
felt about it yeah didn't give you

855
00:33:10,730 --> 00:33:09,720
exactly a threat sorry all right Jay I

856
00:33:13,909 --> 00:33:10,740
was just gonna say correct me if I'm

857
00:33:15,950 --> 00:33:13,919
wrong uh Dave or Kevin you got a uh an

858
00:33:17,509 --> 00:33:15,960
official like apology from the military

859
00:33:20,029 --> 00:33:17,519
did you not did they not officially

860
00:33:22,850 --> 00:33:20,039
release something saying we apologized

861
00:33:26,269 --> 00:33:22,860
Kevin day for you know the hell that we

862
00:33:27,649 --> 00:33:26,279
put him through no no and you and you

863
00:33:28,909 --> 00:33:27,659
know why I don't

864
00:33:32,269 --> 00:33:28,919
um

865
00:33:33,649 --> 00:33:32,279
I don't really want it and it's not

866
00:33:36,710 --> 00:33:33,659
something I want

867
00:33:39,049 --> 00:33:36,720
because this is nobody's fault man

868
00:33:41,450 --> 00:33:39,059
nobody did this on purpose there's who's

869
00:33:45,169 --> 00:33:41,460
gonna you know I'm not looking for an

870
00:33:47,210 --> 00:33:45,179
apology in fact I'm happy this happened

871
00:33:48,710 --> 00:33:47,220
to be quite honest with you because look

872
00:33:49,610 --> 00:33:48,720
at the result

873
00:33:55,310 --> 00:33:49,620
um

874
00:33:58,009 --> 00:33:55,320
I I had the opportunity to see this

875
00:33:59,570 --> 00:33:58,019
through and be a part of the team that

876
00:34:01,909 --> 00:33:59,580
maybe

877
00:34:04,250 --> 00:34:01,919
is able to finally move this thing

878
00:34:06,889 --> 00:34:04,260
forward a little bit yeah and it

879
00:34:08,930 --> 00:34:06,899
motivated you to be active to to seek

880
00:34:10,790 --> 00:34:08,940
answers and you know that sort of

881
00:34:12,169 --> 00:34:10,800
conviction right not at first you gotta

882
00:34:13,609 --> 00:34:12,179
remember there was years and years and

883
00:34:16,250 --> 00:34:13,619
years and years and years where I'd put

884
00:34:18,109 --> 00:34:16,260
this all behind me right and I finally

885
00:34:21,470 --> 00:34:18,119
got woke up at the golf course when CNN

886
00:34:22,790 --> 00:34:21,480
broke yeah but when it happened I had

887
00:34:24,349 --> 00:34:22,800
everything in place

888
00:34:27,470 --> 00:34:24,359
just in case

889
00:34:30,169 --> 00:34:27,480
like um I don't have it handy but my my

890
00:34:32,750 --> 00:34:30,179
book Sailors anthology

891
00:34:34,310 --> 00:34:32,760
um what it is I wrote a short story

892
00:34:36,530 --> 00:34:34,320
called The Seer because no one would

893
00:34:38,869 --> 00:34:36,540
believe me I published it in the Library

894
00:34:40,909 --> 00:34:38,879
of Congress in 2009 and what it is it's

895
00:34:43,669 --> 00:34:40,919
a fictionalized account of the Tic Tac

896
00:34:45,950 --> 00:34:43,679
Encounters in fact I actually name all

897
00:34:48,050 --> 00:34:45,960
the ships and actually call them Tic Tac

898
00:34:50,149 --> 00:34:48,060
so there's no there's no mistaken right

899
00:34:53,089 --> 00:34:50,159
right I publish it in the Library of

900
00:34:55,909 --> 00:34:53,099
Congress just in case guys and gals

901
00:34:58,790 --> 00:34:55,919
just in case the story ever became

902
00:35:00,890 --> 00:34:58,800
public that my book

903
00:35:02,930 --> 00:35:00,900
would become evidence that the event

904
00:35:05,650 --> 00:35:02,940
itself really happened

905
00:35:08,690 --> 00:35:05,660
yeah and guess what did happen

906
00:35:10,970 --> 00:35:08,700
yeah and doing these shows as part of it

907
00:35:13,550 --> 00:35:10,980
as well my book is irrefutable evidence

908
00:35:16,069 --> 00:35:13,560
unless I have a time machine yeah this

909
00:35:18,170 --> 00:35:16,079
thing really happened yeah it's

910
00:35:20,450 --> 00:35:18,180
irrefutable

911
00:35:22,490 --> 00:35:20,460
yeah unlike me every I mean it's unlike

912
00:35:24,230 --> 00:35:22,500
any ever evidence I've ever seen that's

913
00:35:28,250 --> 00:35:24,240
irrefutable have you ever seen any

914
00:35:31,329 --> 00:35:28,260
encounter evidence that's irrefutable

915
00:35:35,089 --> 00:35:31,339
yeah well my my book is yeah

916
00:35:37,430 --> 00:35:35,099
do you uh you put yourself I don't have

917
00:35:41,270 --> 00:35:37,440
a time machine so yeah yeah you wrote it

918
00:35:43,609 --> 00:35:41,280
when 09. I published it yeah I went home

919
00:35:45,410 --> 00:35:43,619
in frustration after quit in my job and

920
00:35:47,450 --> 00:35:45,420
I said I know what I'll do I'll

921
00:35:48,950 --> 00:35:47,460
I'll write a short story sexualize The

922
00:35:49,670 --> 00:35:48,960
publish your library in Congress just in

923
00:35:51,770 --> 00:35:49,680
case

924
00:35:52,550 --> 00:35:51,780
and I wrote it over the summer and I

925
00:35:55,550 --> 00:35:52,560
actually

926
00:35:57,589 --> 00:35:55,560
um published it in February 2009 I have

927
00:35:59,089 --> 00:35:57,599
the library control

928
00:36:01,310 --> 00:35:59,099
um number around here somewhere I don't

929
00:36:03,410 --> 00:36:01,320
have the book handy right it's not it's

930
00:36:06,470 --> 00:36:03,420
online for free I sent you the link yeah

931
00:36:08,450 --> 00:36:06,480
the sailors Anthology Book yeah and you

932
00:36:10,490 --> 00:36:08,460
know it it and I have to say it is

933
00:36:12,890 --> 00:36:10,500
available on Amazon

934
00:36:15,349 --> 00:36:12,900
um for sale but it's not for me the

935
00:36:17,030 --> 00:36:15,359
money goes to research so just listeners

936
00:36:18,890 --> 00:36:17,040
know if they want to help with research

937
00:36:21,050 --> 00:36:18,900
you could buy the book that way or read

938
00:36:23,230 --> 00:36:21,060
it for free there's other short stories

939
00:36:26,450 --> 00:36:23,240
and there are two that are pretty fun

940
00:36:30,370 --> 00:36:26,460
one of them's a little risque but I hey

941
00:36:36,290 --> 00:36:33,589
the the sailors overseas yeah that one

942
00:36:38,329 --> 00:36:36,300
there's a story about the Philippines of

943
00:36:40,609 --> 00:36:38,339
course yeah that's awesome I have to

944
00:36:42,770 --> 00:36:40,619
read it yeah yeah I like it maybe

945
00:36:44,390 --> 00:36:42,780
they'll uh make it a Netflix special one

946
00:36:46,910 --> 00:36:44,400
day you never know

947
00:36:48,950 --> 00:36:46,920
um yeah but uh with the recent

948
00:36:50,329 --> 00:36:48,960
developments that we've had and there's

949
00:36:53,450 --> 00:36:50,339
been quite a bit of development it

950
00:36:55,550 --> 00:36:53,460
almost feels like it's a weird kind of

951
00:36:58,609 --> 00:36:55,560
I wouldn't say quite disclosure but more

952
00:37:01,370 --> 00:36:58,619
of a an open discussion with you know

953
00:37:03,950 --> 00:37:01,380
the the higher-ups in Parliament not in

954
00:37:05,990 --> 00:37:03,960
Canada and the United States uh we had

955
00:37:08,270 --> 00:37:06,000
you know Justin Trudeau addressed the

956
00:37:10,010 --> 00:37:08,280
shoot Downs of the UFOs and you know the

957
00:37:11,690 --> 00:37:10,020
he was completely honest with the

958
00:37:13,730 --> 00:37:11,700
population and then the president came

959
00:37:14,450 --> 00:37:13,740
out and said the same thing

960
00:37:17,030 --> 00:37:14,460
um

961
00:37:19,130 --> 00:37:17,040
they still haven't recovered anything uh

962
00:37:21,710 --> 00:37:19,140
they say that they've given up on it

963
00:37:23,990 --> 00:37:21,720
um but there's people that we've talked

964
00:37:25,849 --> 00:37:24,000
to over the years have said you know

965
00:37:28,310 --> 00:37:25,859
about these government programs that are

966
00:37:30,730 --> 00:37:28,320
specialized in Crash retrievals and

967
00:37:33,589 --> 00:37:30,740
there's no way that these three crash

968
00:37:35,030 --> 00:37:33,599
vehicles are just not accessible there's

969
00:37:36,890 --> 00:37:35,040
no way these teams know what they're

970
00:37:37,609 --> 00:37:36,900
doing at this point

971
00:37:40,130 --> 00:37:37,619
um

972
00:37:41,210 --> 00:37:40,140
so again it's just speculation at this

973
00:37:42,890 --> 00:37:41,220
point we don't know if there was

974
00:37:44,230 --> 00:37:42,900
balloons or not it's just it's weird

975
00:37:48,650 --> 00:37:44,240
that we spent

976
00:37:51,230 --> 00:37:48,660
430 000 missiles to shoot down a balloon

977
00:37:53,030 --> 00:37:51,240
like if that's the case you know we

978
00:37:54,890 --> 00:37:53,040
would have evidence plus there's a

979
00:37:55,910 --> 00:37:54,900
testimony of the pilots saying that you

980
00:37:58,970 --> 00:37:55,920
know one of them was saying there's

981
00:38:01,370 --> 00:37:58,980
equipment on the on his uh plane was

982
00:38:02,810 --> 00:38:01,380
sort of acting up uh the other people

983
00:38:05,630 --> 00:38:02,820
were like I can't describe it can't

984
00:38:08,589 --> 00:38:05,640
identify it you guys are the most

985
00:38:11,270 --> 00:38:08,599
trained observers in the world right

986
00:38:13,010 --> 00:38:11,280
especially the level you said E8 was

987
00:38:13,690 --> 00:38:13,020
your your rank level

988
00:38:16,670 --> 00:38:13,700
um

989
00:38:19,310 --> 00:38:16,680
you're you're trained to the top there's

990
00:38:20,569 --> 00:38:19,320
nobody better at this job than you and

991
00:38:21,950 --> 00:38:20,579
yet if you come out and say hey

992
00:38:24,470 --> 00:38:21,960
something wasn't right people like I

993
00:38:26,450 --> 00:38:24,480
must be losing it you just mentioned you

994
00:38:29,270 --> 00:38:26,460
were the guy at the board who had access

995
00:38:30,950 --> 00:38:29,280
to the launch sequences and then your

996
00:38:33,170 --> 00:38:30,960
captain will come in and turn the key

997
00:38:36,470 --> 00:38:33,180
like you can't be mental to do that job

998
00:38:39,770 --> 00:38:36,480
they would never let somebody do that so

999
00:38:42,470 --> 00:38:39,780
God forbid yeah yeah exactly and and so

1000
00:38:45,230 --> 00:38:42,480
we even have incidences where they fly

1001
00:38:47,050 --> 00:38:45,240
over nuclear facilities scare the crap

1002
00:38:51,170 --> 00:38:47,060
out of the guys that work there

1003
00:38:53,290 --> 00:38:51,180
yeah yeah and uh even was it Roberts

1004
00:38:56,569 --> 00:38:53,300
yeah yeah

1005
00:38:58,069 --> 00:38:56,579
so when we get people from the military

1006
00:39:00,410 --> 00:38:58,079
to come forward and say hey this

1007
00:39:02,450 --> 00:39:00,420
happened and I wasn't able to do my job

1008
00:39:04,069 --> 00:39:02,460
because I wasn't able to identify I

1009
00:39:06,589 --> 00:39:04,079
wasn't able to do anything about the

1010
00:39:08,030 --> 00:39:06,599
threat like and it's not really threat

1011
00:39:10,970 --> 00:39:08,040
right but we don't really believe in the

1012
00:39:12,290 --> 00:39:10,980
threat narrative anyways uh but if it

1013
00:39:15,410 --> 00:39:12,300
was a threat you wouldn't be able to

1014
00:39:18,589 --> 00:39:15,420
defend against it because yeah right

1015
00:39:20,150 --> 00:39:18,599
look right yeah exactly like yeah yeah I

1016
00:39:22,310 --> 00:39:20,160
better let praying

1017
00:39:24,710 --> 00:39:22,320
what's that you would have better luck

1018
00:39:25,790 --> 00:39:24,720
actually praying yeah yeah praying to

1019
00:39:29,210 --> 00:39:25,800
God yeah you would actually have

1020
00:39:30,650 --> 00:39:29,220
Overlook yeah yeah because it's far more

1021
00:39:32,930 --> 00:39:30,660
and like I said the fact that they're

1022
00:39:35,510 --> 00:39:32,940
evading a lot of you know the dispatches

1023
00:39:38,750 --> 00:39:35,520
that we've had even as an Israeli uh

1024
00:39:41,150 --> 00:39:38,760
pilot back I think in 1986 that was sent

1025
00:39:43,870 --> 00:39:41,160
out to shoot down an unidentified object

1026
00:39:46,370 --> 00:39:43,880
and the same problem with with his craft

1027
00:39:49,190 --> 00:39:46,380
started malfunctioning he started diving

1028
00:39:51,470 --> 00:39:49,200
after like he turned on the uh the

1029
00:39:53,870 --> 00:39:51,480
missile sequence or whatever the for the

1030
00:39:56,329 --> 00:39:53,880
launch and at that point the ship

1031
00:39:57,770 --> 00:39:56,339
started acting up and he knew it was the

1032
00:39:58,970 --> 00:39:57,780
intelligence whatever was finding that

1033
00:39:59,569 --> 00:39:58,980
Craft

1034
00:40:01,069 --> 00:39:59,579
um

1035
00:40:02,510 --> 00:40:01,079
what's fascinating about these crafts

1036
00:40:04,790 --> 00:40:02,520
too is that they seem to be intelligent

1037
00:40:06,710 --> 00:40:04,800
it seems to be a consciousness of the

1038
00:40:08,690 --> 00:40:06,720
whole craft which is fascinating we

1039
00:40:11,990 --> 00:40:08,700
don't have the technology and you were

1040
00:40:15,230 --> 00:40:12,000
mentioning even uh Captain favor or uh

1041
00:40:17,030 --> 00:40:15,240
going down towards the Tic Tac the Tic

1042
00:40:19,670 --> 00:40:17,040
Tac turned towards it as if it

1043
00:40:23,030 --> 00:40:19,680
recognized them right well look well let

1044
00:40:25,310 --> 00:40:23,040
me um follow up on that um part of my

1045
00:40:26,569 --> 00:40:25,320
theory about the big bang and intention

1046
00:40:29,450 --> 00:40:26,579
right

1047
00:40:31,190 --> 00:40:29,460
because I think um attention did become

1048
00:40:33,530 --> 00:40:31,200
a fundamental Force right alongside the

1049
00:40:37,010 --> 00:40:33,540
other four right and expresses itself

1050
00:40:38,089 --> 00:40:37,020
Newtonian and non-Newtonian

1051
00:40:40,910 --> 00:40:38,099
foreign

1052
00:40:44,870 --> 00:40:40,920
and I you know I think these things are

1053
00:40:47,450 --> 00:40:44,880
are based on that and um

1054
00:40:49,010 --> 00:40:47,460
it's intentioned it's intention

1055
00:40:53,150 --> 00:40:49,020
so

1056
00:40:56,150 --> 00:40:53,160
there's a Consciousness there yeah

1057
00:40:57,890 --> 00:40:56,160
right am I wrong no it would seem that

1058
00:40:59,870 --> 00:40:57,900
way because you created the big bang and

1059
00:41:01,490 --> 00:40:59,880
there has to be a Consciousness there so

1060
00:41:04,790 --> 00:41:01,500
that's why it responded to him because

1061
00:41:06,530 --> 00:41:04,800
it's aware it's a lie that it knows so

1062
00:41:10,370 --> 00:41:06,540
what I think this is

1063
00:41:12,589 --> 00:41:10,380
I think and I I call these things um

1064
00:41:15,589 --> 00:41:12,599
I call them in tentatons like gravitons

1065
00:41:17,750 --> 00:41:15,599
I call them intentatons

1066
00:41:20,089 --> 00:41:17,760
and that's and that's the school of

1067
00:41:24,710 --> 00:41:20,099
physics their technology is based on and

1068
00:41:29,150 --> 00:41:26,329
so what I think these are I think

1069
00:41:30,950 --> 00:41:29,160
they're in a like imagine the cube in

1070
00:41:33,170 --> 00:41:30,960
the sphere rip sighting right it's been

1071
00:41:35,150 --> 00:41:33,180
cited several times now

1072
00:41:37,190 --> 00:41:35,160
I think the cube in the sphere is an

1073
00:41:42,950 --> 00:41:37,200
intentatonic object

1074
00:41:45,290 --> 00:41:42,960
with in a Quantum extreme low surface

1075
00:41:47,569 --> 00:41:45,300
yeah because there was just there was

1076
00:41:50,810 --> 00:41:47,579
just a recent article by George Musser

1077
00:41:53,210 --> 00:41:50,820
and people can um Google this is

1078
00:41:56,030 --> 00:41:53,220
um they've solved the big problem or big

1079
00:41:57,349 --> 00:41:56,040
mystery about black holes and they they

1080
00:41:59,750 --> 00:41:57,359
now know there's something called the

1081
00:42:01,849 --> 00:41:59,760
quantum extremely surface and it can be

1082
00:42:03,230 --> 00:42:01,859
any size on anything

1083
00:42:05,510 --> 00:42:03,240
I noted that

1084
00:42:08,210 --> 00:42:05,520
so I'm thinking um what would suddenly

1085
00:42:10,250 --> 00:42:08,220
give my intentatonix passwords to

1086
00:42:12,170 --> 00:42:10,260
anything because what this

1087
00:42:13,670 --> 00:42:12,180
they think what a Quantum extremal

1088
00:42:15,470 --> 00:42:13,680
surface does in the big bank we used to

1089
00:42:18,050 --> 00:42:15,480
think that if a refrigerator fell into a

1090
00:42:20,569 --> 00:42:18,060
big bang it was gone forever

1091
00:42:22,609 --> 00:42:20,579
right but we now know that's not true or

1092
00:42:25,609 --> 00:42:22,619
they think it's not true

1093
00:42:27,230 --> 00:42:25,619
that same refrigerator can actually and

1094
00:42:29,329 --> 00:42:27,240
I'm just using it as an example can

1095
00:42:32,329 --> 00:42:29,339
actually come back out AV Big Bang

1096
00:42:34,550 --> 00:42:32,339
because at Quantum extremal surface is a

1097
00:42:37,250 --> 00:42:34,560
keeper of all passwords

1098
00:42:40,430 --> 00:42:37,260
it has the password to put that random

1099
00:42:42,410 --> 00:42:40,440
radiation back into a refrigerator

1100
00:42:44,870 --> 00:42:42,420
so think about that

1101
00:42:46,490 --> 00:42:44,880
think about these UAP right what if I

1102
00:42:48,650 --> 00:42:46,500
have that Quantum extreme wheel service

1103
00:42:49,849 --> 00:42:48,660
around my intent Titanic engineering

1104
00:42:52,490 --> 00:42:49,859
right

1105
00:42:55,190 --> 00:42:52,500
I I suddenly have passwords

1106
00:42:55,970 --> 00:42:55,200
to go anywhere wherever the heck I want

1107
00:42:57,849 --> 00:42:55,980
to

1108
00:43:00,950 --> 00:42:57,859
through the water through the ground

1109
00:43:02,809 --> 00:43:00,960
yeah through air through time through

1110
00:43:04,910 --> 00:43:02,819
space

1111
00:43:07,250 --> 00:43:04,920
through a brand new type of physics that

1112
00:43:10,190 --> 00:43:07,260
we didn't know about before based on

1113
00:43:14,990 --> 00:43:13,730
and that and and I've shared I've shared

1114
00:43:17,809 --> 00:43:15,000
my idea

1115
00:43:19,370 --> 00:43:17,819
um I'm on email threads with some pretty

1116
00:43:20,930 --> 00:43:19,380
um well I'll just say it and I'm not

1117
00:43:24,170 --> 00:43:20,940
going to mention names with the world's

1118
00:43:25,730 --> 00:43:24,180
top Quantum physicist all right and I've

1119
00:43:27,170 --> 00:43:25,740
drawn out my diagrams and I'll share

1120
00:43:29,329 --> 00:43:27,180
them with you guys and

1121
00:43:31,370 --> 00:43:29,339
my blackboard's on this right

1122
00:43:33,829 --> 00:43:31,380
and I and at the very end I said hey

1123
00:43:36,650 --> 00:43:33,839
gentlemen and ladies

1124
00:43:38,809 --> 00:43:36,660
feel free to laugh loud me at me if you

1125
00:43:42,470 --> 00:43:38,819
need to feel the need because I'm used

1126
00:43:45,109 --> 00:43:42,480
to it I was left loudly at before

1127
00:43:46,609 --> 00:43:45,119
and you know what happened instead

1128
00:43:48,170 --> 00:43:46,619
I'm not going to mention this name but

1129
00:43:52,010 --> 00:43:48,180
you know this person

1130
00:43:55,069 --> 00:43:52,020
he came back to me and said me too

1131
00:43:57,770 --> 00:43:55,079
that was his only response yeah and not

1132
00:44:01,430 --> 00:43:57,780
a single one of them has laughed at me

1133
00:44:02,809 --> 00:44:01,440
yeah and this was how long ago Kim just

1134
00:44:04,609 --> 00:44:02,819
a couple months ago yeah a couple months

1135
00:44:07,550 --> 00:44:04,619
ago yeah

1136
00:44:10,250 --> 00:44:07,560
and we're going down the rabbit hole is

1137
00:44:12,530 --> 00:44:10,260
not as crazy I truly do okay I really do

1138
00:44:14,990 --> 00:44:12,540
think I'm onto something here yeah

1139
00:44:17,630 --> 00:44:15,000
actually I just I got a quick question

1140
00:44:19,910 --> 00:44:17,640
for you and to answer your question how

1141
00:44:21,770 --> 00:44:19,920
does this affect you you guys there's a

1142
00:44:23,030 --> 00:44:21,780
whole reason why they came off on this

1143
00:44:25,609 --> 00:44:23,040
whole thread is because you asked how

1144
00:44:27,290 --> 00:44:25,619
post post encounter affects people

1145
00:44:28,910 --> 00:44:27,300
I went there

1146
00:44:31,910 --> 00:44:28,920
hell

1147
00:44:34,370 --> 00:44:31,920
that a non-minor non-geologists possibly

1148
00:44:36,950 --> 00:44:34,380
find the largest mineral deposit in the

1149
00:44:39,470 --> 00:44:36,960
history of the world and guess what

1150
00:44:40,970 --> 00:44:39,480
it's suddenly minable now without ever

1151
00:44:43,670 --> 00:44:40,980
touching the blade of grass in the

1152
00:44:45,410 --> 00:44:43,680
wilderness or any town or any City or

1153
00:44:47,390 --> 00:44:45,420
any road or freeway above it all you

1154
00:44:49,430 --> 00:44:47,400
know how

1155
00:44:51,589 --> 00:44:49,440
because when the deer moon mission came

1156
00:44:52,609 --> 00:44:51,599
around I applied for it and I gave this

1157
00:44:54,890 --> 00:44:52,619
suggestion

1158
00:44:57,170 --> 00:44:54,900
Hey sir you know uh

1159
00:45:00,050 --> 00:44:57,180
you know you're boring technology you're

1160
00:45:01,550 --> 00:45:00,060
putting in between Las Vegas and

1161
00:45:03,829 --> 00:45:01,560
um Los Angeles

1162
00:45:05,569 --> 00:45:03,839
you might be able to repurpose that to

1163
00:45:08,210 --> 00:45:05,579
mine these deposits from below the

1164
00:45:14,210 --> 00:45:10,309
without ever touching the Wilderness or

1165
00:45:18,349 --> 00:45:16,430
that's why the NASA flight was flying

1166
00:45:19,970 --> 00:45:18,359
over because they know it's possible to

1167
00:45:23,510 --> 00:45:19,980
mine this now

1168
00:45:25,250 --> 00:45:23,520
and I'm just and simply based on you got

1169
00:45:26,990 --> 00:45:25,260
to remember where this geology came from

1170
00:45:29,630 --> 00:45:27,000
right along the mid-pacific spreading

1171
00:45:32,030 --> 00:45:29,640
Arts hydrothermal vents all around it

1172
00:45:33,650 --> 00:45:32,040
and at our actual mining claim I have I

1173
00:45:35,990 --> 00:45:33,660
have extreme title thermal vents I'll

1174
00:45:38,630 --> 00:45:36,000
show you and I have um I have all the

1175
00:45:41,089 --> 00:45:38,640
aspects of a of a opioid probably the

1176
00:45:42,470 --> 00:45:41,099
best example in the whole West Coast

1177
00:45:44,690 --> 00:45:42,480
okay

1178
00:45:48,290 --> 00:45:44,700
just based on the size and type of

1179
00:45:50,690 --> 00:45:48,300
geology this is gentlemen and ladies

1180
00:45:51,829 --> 00:45:50,700
this deposit could literally be with

1181
00:45:55,970 --> 00:45:51,839
trillions

1182
00:46:00,230 --> 00:45:55,980
with the capital T and with the S

1183
00:46:01,550 --> 00:46:00,240
right well this is your little gifts I

1184
00:46:04,309 --> 00:46:01,560
was asked the other day there someone

1185
00:46:05,630 --> 00:46:04,319
asked me Hey Kevin I mean you discovered

1186
00:46:07,010 --> 00:46:05,640
it and described it what do you want out

1187
00:46:10,130 --> 00:46:07,020
of this and you know what my answer was

1188
00:46:11,930 --> 00:46:10,140
I don't want to dime for those deposits

1189
00:46:13,670 --> 00:46:11,940
I made sure we got my mining claim and

1190
00:46:16,190 --> 00:46:13,680
stuff so what

1191
00:46:17,750 --> 00:46:16,200
100 years in the family right 160 Acres

1192
00:46:20,030 --> 00:46:17,760
right in the middle of this thing

1193
00:46:21,950 --> 00:46:20,040
in fact you know what I want

1194
00:46:25,490 --> 00:46:21,960
I want a portion of this wealth

1195
00:46:27,530 --> 00:46:25,500
represented by this massive deposit

1196
00:46:29,329 --> 00:46:27,540
to be combined with today's and

1197
00:46:32,690 --> 00:46:29,339
tomorrow's Technologies

1198
00:46:37,309 --> 00:46:32,700
and used to finally end poverty and

1199
00:46:41,690 --> 00:46:40,370
do you ever think it'll happen Kevin yes

1200
00:46:47,150 --> 00:46:41,700
good

1201
00:46:50,210 --> 00:46:47,160
I definitely do yeah it I see it

1202
00:46:53,870 --> 00:46:50,220
take it for me I see you

1203
00:46:58,790 --> 00:46:53,880
and I see a way to do it

1204
00:47:00,470 --> 00:46:58,800
at least one way yeah I think we can

1205
00:47:02,270 --> 00:47:00,480
the same way I think we can start

1206
00:47:05,150 --> 00:47:02,280
teaching our children about this UAP

1207
00:47:08,150 --> 00:47:05,160
stuff how hard is that

1208
00:47:12,010 --> 00:47:08,160
it's important it's an important issue

1209
00:47:16,550 --> 00:47:14,150
the other choice is to let that little

1210
00:47:19,450 --> 00:47:16,560
girl and little boy go crazy because no

1211
00:47:21,890 --> 00:47:19,460
one believes them yeah other other

1212
00:47:23,870 --> 00:47:21,900
classmates are making fun of them

1213
00:47:25,309 --> 00:47:23,880
yeah that's the other choice that's what

1214
00:47:27,109 --> 00:47:25,319
we're doing now

1215
00:47:30,710 --> 00:47:27,119
am I wrong

1216
00:47:32,630 --> 00:47:30,720
no no but this this yeah and this is

1217
00:47:36,530 --> 00:47:32,640
part of it is having these discussions

1218
00:47:37,849 --> 00:47:36,540
openly and addressing the elephant in a

1219
00:47:39,650 --> 00:47:37,859
room that we all know is there there's

1220
00:47:42,589 --> 00:47:39,660
something that's not right and it's not

1221
00:47:44,270 --> 00:47:42,599
been right for a long time for ever

1222
00:47:45,829 --> 00:47:44,280
people have not been talking about it

1223
00:47:47,329 --> 00:47:45,839
because it's like let's all pretend it

1224
00:47:49,370 --> 00:47:47,339
doesn't happen and laugh at anybody

1225
00:47:50,990 --> 00:47:49,380
talks about it but we're at the point

1226
00:47:52,609 --> 00:47:51,000
where we can't ignore it anymore like

1227
00:47:55,490 --> 00:47:52,619
you mentioned the technology on your

1228
00:47:57,950 --> 00:47:55,500
ship had just been upgraded I don't

1229
00:48:00,230 --> 00:47:57,960
think these things are more active or

1230
00:48:02,329 --> 00:48:00,240
are newer to us I just think we have

1231
00:48:05,690 --> 00:48:02,339
better technology to detect them now

1232
00:48:07,790 --> 00:48:05,700
because we're progressing yes right even

1233
00:48:09,170 --> 00:48:07,800
so even cell phones are adding to it you

1234
00:48:11,809 --> 00:48:09,180
know people snapping pictures and videos

1235
00:48:13,550 --> 00:48:11,819
yeah yeah and even we mentioned it

1236
00:48:15,470 --> 00:48:13,560
before like the Phoenix Lights when that

1237
00:48:19,010 --> 00:48:15,480
massive Boomerang ship was above uh

1238
00:48:21,530 --> 00:48:19,020
Phoenix Arizona in 1997. if that happens

1239
00:48:24,170 --> 00:48:21,540
again and it will it's just a matter of

1240
00:48:26,630 --> 00:48:24,180
time there'll be tons of people now

1241
00:48:28,550 --> 00:48:26,640
because we got door doorbell cameras now

1242
00:48:30,470 --> 00:48:28,560
which is insane stain you got your cell

1243
00:48:31,910 --> 00:48:30,480
phones you got security cameras

1244
00:48:33,589 --> 00:48:31,920
installed everywhere nobody trusses

1245
00:48:35,750 --> 00:48:33,599
anybody anymore there's cameras

1246
00:48:39,230 --> 00:48:35,760
everywhere but there'll be so much

1247
00:48:41,329 --> 00:48:39,240
footage of this craft or an event that

1248
00:48:43,910 --> 00:48:41,339
will take place that it will be

1249
00:48:46,550 --> 00:48:43,920
something that the news has now got to

1250
00:48:48,050 --> 00:48:46,560
take it more seriously and I know that

1251
00:48:49,010 --> 00:48:48,060
you've been on tons of shows and stuff

1252
00:48:51,290 --> 00:48:49,020
like that

1253
00:48:52,849 --> 00:48:51,300
I noticed there's a change and a shift

1254
00:48:55,370 --> 00:48:52,859
in a way that the reporters are

1255
00:48:57,109 --> 00:48:55,380
addressing this issue and that they're

1256
00:48:58,790 --> 00:48:57,119
not making a mockery of any of it

1257
00:49:00,650 --> 00:48:58,800
anymore you know like when the intro

1258
00:49:02,510 --> 00:49:00,660
would start and it's like well if you

1259
00:49:05,089 --> 00:49:02,520
believe in aliens this next topic will

1260
00:49:07,309 --> 00:49:05,099
be of interest to you they don't do that

1261
00:49:09,950 --> 00:49:07,319
anymore they don't make mockery of it

1262
00:49:11,089 --> 00:49:09,960
have you noticed that as well for the

1263
00:49:13,910 --> 00:49:11,099
people that have approached you that

1264
00:49:17,450 --> 00:49:13,920
it's it's more on the serious tone now

1265
00:49:20,150 --> 00:49:17,460
uh absolutely but I have to confess I

1266
00:49:22,069 --> 00:49:20,160
don't even have cable in my house nice

1267
00:49:23,210 --> 00:49:22,079
um I'm not an important to watch news in

1268
00:49:25,370 --> 00:49:23,220
fact you know what we do all day we

1269
00:49:27,349 --> 00:49:25,380
listen to music pretty much that's good

1270
00:49:28,490 --> 00:49:27,359
but we're not we're not I'll get up in

1271
00:49:30,829 --> 00:49:28,500
the morning with coffee and I'll read

1272
00:49:33,349 --> 00:49:30,839
the news so I'm I'm informed and stuff

1273
00:49:34,670 --> 00:49:33,359
of course email and all that but for the

1274
00:49:36,349 --> 00:49:34,680
rest of the day when we're doing chores

1275
00:49:39,890 --> 00:49:36,359
just enjoying the day for listening to

1276
00:49:42,109 --> 00:49:39,900
music I have never has the news ever

1277
00:49:45,349 --> 00:49:42,119
been on in this house since you no yeah

1278
00:49:46,550 --> 00:49:45,359
I so the answer is no item I don't care

1279
00:49:48,890 --> 00:49:46,560
yeah

1280
00:49:51,710 --> 00:49:48,900
someone else is concerned

1281
00:49:53,809 --> 00:49:51,720
yeah no but it's like I said it takes

1282
00:49:56,030 --> 00:49:53,819
bravery to do what you're doing and just

1283
00:50:00,230 --> 00:49:56,040
continue doing what you're doing and

1284
00:50:02,750 --> 00:50:00,240
this is It's a historical step

1285
00:50:04,430 --> 00:50:02,760
for all of us that have been researching

1286
00:50:07,730 --> 00:50:04,440
this or have had interests or

1287
00:50:09,710 --> 00:50:07,740
experiences with this phenomenon uh to

1288
00:50:11,510 --> 00:50:09,720
at least be this far like I didn't think

1289
00:50:13,490 --> 00:50:11,520
that we would progress as far and like

1290
00:50:15,170 --> 00:50:13,500
Louie and I have a hard time keeping up

1291
00:50:16,250 --> 00:50:15,180
with the news lately like it just seems

1292
00:50:18,349 --> 00:50:16,260
like there's always something new

1293
00:50:20,450 --> 00:50:18,359
developing or happening or senators

1294
00:50:23,690 --> 00:50:20,460
getting involved and there's so much

1295
00:50:26,030 --> 00:50:23,700
momentum now that it's it's encouraging

1296
00:50:28,309 --> 00:50:26,040
that this will be more there's some

1297
00:50:31,490 --> 00:50:28,319
Brave Senators up in our Congress right

1298
00:50:34,010 --> 00:50:31,500
I Gotta Give Them credit yeah and on

1299
00:50:38,410 --> 00:50:34,020
Congressman too Carson and gillibrand

1300
00:50:41,089 --> 00:50:38,420
Julio yeah God bless them man

1301
00:50:43,010 --> 00:50:41,099
I'll put it out there I'm I'm a

1302
00:50:44,809 --> 00:50:43,020
pro-government kind of guy and I I

1303
00:50:47,450 --> 00:50:44,819
greatly respect my elected government

1304
00:50:49,190 --> 00:50:47,460
yeah so those people serving in Congress

1305
00:50:51,049 --> 00:50:49,200
they have my salute

1306
00:50:53,030 --> 00:50:51,059
just so I'll put it out there I know

1307
00:50:54,890 --> 00:50:53,040
they get a lot of hate and

1308
00:50:58,309 --> 00:50:54,900
that kind of I'm not one of those people

1309
00:51:01,010 --> 00:50:58,319
yeah okay so Kevin what are you doing

1310
00:51:02,690 --> 00:51:01,020
now like what are you doing these days

1311
00:51:04,910 --> 00:51:02,700
I know you just got married to Kim and

1312
00:51:05,990 --> 00:51:04,920
congratulations guys by the way that's a

1313
00:51:07,430 --> 00:51:06,000
huge deal

1314
00:51:10,250 --> 00:51:07,440
yeah

1315
00:51:12,170 --> 00:51:10,260
so we're still in a kind of a transition

1316
00:51:13,730 --> 00:51:12,180
phase and we're we're putting a lot of

1317
00:51:15,950 --> 00:51:13,740
carry love into our home

1318
00:51:17,630 --> 00:51:15,960
and fixing it up and

1319
00:51:20,089 --> 00:51:17,640
um it's really become a beautiful place

1320
00:51:22,250 --> 00:51:20,099
and in fact if you're ever in this part

1321
00:51:23,809 --> 00:51:22,260
of Oregon you're welcome to come and and

1322
00:51:25,370 --> 00:51:23,819
welcome to the live interview if you

1323
00:51:26,510 --> 00:51:25,380
want that's awesome I'll put it out

1324
00:51:29,150 --> 00:51:26,520
there

1325
00:51:30,470 --> 00:51:29,160
and um we're getting ready to do an

1326
00:51:31,670 --> 00:51:30,480
expedition here

1327
00:51:35,450 --> 00:51:31,680
um

1328
00:51:37,250 --> 00:51:35,460
and my uncle's my no he my uncle passed

1329
00:51:39,170 --> 00:51:37,260
from covid but his his house is up here

1330
00:51:41,390 --> 00:51:39,180
around what Three Doors Down up on the

1331
00:51:43,069 --> 00:51:41,400
hill and he has an excellent view all

1332
00:51:45,589 --> 00:51:43,079
the way from probably Northern

1333
00:51:47,150 --> 00:51:45,599
California to Washington right and

1334
00:51:49,309 --> 00:51:47,160
describe talk about the sky not the land

1335
00:51:51,290 --> 00:51:49,319
obviously so we're gonna set up there

1336
00:51:53,870 --> 00:51:51,300
with some pretty cool gear and do an

1337
00:51:56,690 --> 00:51:53,880
expedition will they show up

1338
00:51:58,130 --> 00:51:56,700
intention you'll make it happen

1339
00:52:00,710 --> 00:51:58,140
well

1340
00:52:03,890 --> 00:52:00,720
they have before yeah

1341
00:52:05,150 --> 00:52:03,900
and it actually I was gonna shocked me I

1342
00:52:07,250 --> 00:52:05,160
was going to ask you because usually

1343
00:52:08,690 --> 00:52:07,260
when there's a lot of minerals and and

1344
00:52:11,510 --> 00:52:08,700
uh

1345
00:52:14,390 --> 00:52:11,520
mines I we talked to people that worked

1346
00:52:16,130 --> 00:52:14,400
at mines that have had seen things that

1347
00:52:18,170 --> 00:52:16,140
uh you know it's not uncommon for them

1348
00:52:20,990 --> 00:52:18,180
to see UFOs above the mines

1349
00:52:23,390 --> 00:52:21,000
uh even my experience when I was 13 I

1350
00:52:25,250 --> 00:52:23,400
was in a small mining town uh there's a

1351
00:52:27,349 --> 00:52:25,260
lot of minerals and whatever this thing

1352
00:52:29,930 --> 00:52:27,359
was looking for it looked like it was

1353
00:52:31,670 --> 00:52:29,940
searching for something uh have you

1354
00:52:32,930 --> 00:52:31,680
noticed anything have you guys seen

1355
00:52:34,490 --> 00:52:32,940
anything since you've been on the

1356
00:52:36,109 --> 00:52:34,500
property because you got quite a bit of

1357
00:52:38,809 --> 00:52:36,119
minerals there hey that's a very good

1358
00:52:41,630 --> 00:52:38,819
quote no that's a very good question

1359
00:52:45,170 --> 00:52:41,640
because I myself have never seen a UFO

1360
00:52:47,510 --> 00:52:45,180
or UAP here in the valley okay and in

1361
00:52:50,510 --> 00:52:47,520
fact um that when this happened on the

1362
00:52:52,430 --> 00:52:50,520
ship oh until recently until recently

1363
00:52:54,589 --> 00:52:52,440
when this happened on the ship same

1364
00:52:56,329 --> 00:52:54,599
thing

1365
00:52:58,609 --> 00:52:56,339
um all that time and all that experience

1366
00:53:03,049 --> 00:52:58,619
in my last underway too

1367
00:53:05,030 --> 00:53:03,059
in terms of pure and simple odds

1368
00:53:07,490 --> 00:53:05,040
the chances that it was going to be me

1369
00:53:11,630 --> 00:53:07,500
to actually observe these things was

1370
00:53:17,809 --> 00:53:15,470
so I I don't know I think intention has

1371
00:53:19,490 --> 00:53:17,819
something to do with this I really do so

1372
00:53:22,730 --> 00:53:19,500
we'll see we're gonna go up there and

1373
00:53:24,170 --> 00:53:22,740
intent on finding these things and we're

1374
00:53:26,690 --> 00:53:24,180
going to have some pretty neat gear to

1375
00:53:29,030 --> 00:53:26,700
do it with just so the listeners know

1376
00:53:31,190 --> 00:53:29,040
yes I'm cutting edge stuff

1377
00:53:33,530 --> 00:53:31,200
um designed by David Mason I'll put his

1378
00:53:34,910 --> 00:53:33,540
name out there guys a genius yes he is

1379
00:53:36,829 --> 00:53:34,920
we've had him on our show he's a friend

1380
00:53:38,390 --> 00:53:36,839
of ours so well let's do an update once

1381
00:53:39,890 --> 00:53:38,400
you have your Expedition we'll do an

1382
00:53:41,510 --> 00:53:39,900
update on your findings hopefully

1383
00:53:43,670 --> 00:53:41,520
they're rich we are in the early

1384
00:53:46,010 --> 00:53:43,680
discussion stages of it still

1385
00:53:47,990 --> 00:53:46,020
but we're looking at um probably the

1386
00:53:50,270 --> 00:53:48,000
later part of the summer okay or

1387
00:53:52,309 --> 00:53:50,280
mid-summer sometime

1388
00:53:54,410 --> 00:53:52,319
it's big Expedition is this a new crew

1389
00:53:56,809 --> 00:53:54,420
that's currently what's going on uh Kim

1390
00:53:58,849 --> 00:53:56,819
and I are getting the home up and uh we

1391
00:54:01,609 --> 00:53:58,859
got an expedition planned

1392
00:54:03,170 --> 00:54:01,619
and and I'm working stuff like this kind

1393
00:54:04,549 --> 00:54:03,180
of on this side though

1394
00:54:06,829 --> 00:54:04,559
yeah

1395
00:54:09,109 --> 00:54:06,839
no we thank you so much Kevin for uh

1396
00:54:10,190 --> 00:54:09,119
coming on the podcast today uh Louie do

1397
00:54:12,290 --> 00:54:10,200
you have any final questions for our

1398
00:54:13,790 --> 00:54:12,300
guests no again I'll just extend a warm

1399
00:54:16,250 --> 00:54:13,800
thanks Kevin it's always a great

1400
00:54:19,130 --> 00:54:16,260
chatting with you you're very humble and

1401
00:54:20,870 --> 00:54:19,140
heartfelt and uh you know your emotion

1402
00:54:22,910 --> 00:54:20,880
is real and for a lot of people that

1403
00:54:24,829 --> 00:54:22,920
have had experiences the emotional

1404
00:54:27,230 --> 00:54:24,839
factors the toughest one to deal with

1405
00:54:29,750 --> 00:54:27,240
but you're a shining example of it's

1406
00:54:31,970 --> 00:54:29,760
okay to take it get beat down you're

1407
00:54:34,490 --> 00:54:31,980
gonna come out better in the end and

1408
00:54:37,549 --> 00:54:34,500
with a more enriched very long life you

1409
00:54:39,530 --> 00:54:37,559
know less materialistic more love and

1410
00:54:41,390 --> 00:54:39,540
encompassing everything so it's nice to

1411
00:54:43,190 --> 00:54:41,400
see that and we wish you all the best

1412
00:54:45,530 --> 00:54:43,200
and let's chat again later in the summer

1413
00:54:47,270 --> 00:54:45,540
hopefully you find some cool footage and

1414
00:54:49,670 --> 00:54:47,280
stuff you can share

1415
00:54:55,550 --> 00:54:49,680
God willing thank you guys thanks Kevin